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Summer vacations have ended, and most everybody is now back to work, school or whatever. Hope everyone had an enjoyable summer. With few exceptions, the weather has been ideal at the New Jersey Shore all summer long.
For those who aren't aware: PACS doesn't meet in August, although our OS/2 SIG does. The PACS Data Bus newsletter also isn't published in August, so there was no OS/2 SIG article last month.
Notwithstanding the summer doldrums, there were some significant new OS/2 releases from IBM and others over the past couple of months, as described below.
JULY AND AUGUST MEETING REPORT
Despite the hot sticky weather, the July meeting was well attended. Unfortunately, we got off to a somewhat late start due to many of our principal members arriving rather late.
Nevertheless, a very lively Q&A session conducted by David Moskowitz generated lots of member participation, and it also ran somewhat over the scheduled time.
A short intermission was held for the 50/50 raffle and for a copy of Lotus SmartSuite for Warp 4.
We were also treated to a surprise visit by Dan Porter, President of InnoVal Systems Solutions, accompanied by wife Marianne. Dan drove down from Harrison, NY, to brief us on the new Web Willy Watch/Net Extra update program and several other ongoing projects at InnoVal.
Following the break, the latest build of InnoVal's J Street Mailer (Build 98.6.3) was demonstrated by David Moskowitz. This was followed by a presentatrion of JavaFaces 2 by Murray Weismer.
It was now well past 10:00pm, and the jPadHD presentation originally scheduled for July was postponed to the August meeting.
Another hot sticky night and another pleasant surprise! Even though many of our members were away on vacation or otherwise not able to come to the August meeting, we still had good attendance of almost 30 members and guests.
August also marked the initiation of a more strictly enforced meeting schedule policy. We started promptly at 7:00pm, and kept to the schedule published in a POSEIDON meeting notice for most of the meeting.
The meeting began with announcements of general interest by Larry, followed by the Q&A session conducted by David Moskowitz. Some of the principal questions raised are summarized as follows:
August Q&A Summary
| Q: | Is it possible to read FAT32 disk drives with the latest Warp 4 FixPack? |
| A: | The latest FP7 doesn't provide this capability. However, there is a beta driver available at: http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/hkelder/ |
| Q: | I keep getting SYS3170 and SYS3175 errors in OS/2 DLL's. I suspect corruption of these files. How can I replace the entire system to make these go away? |
| A: | SYS3170 and SYS3175 errors are application errors not system errors. It is possible to replace modules, but that is not the recommended solution. The questioner revealed that it happened with two Web browsers, beta Netscape and Web Explorer but always when visiting the same URL's. This suggested the likelyhood of a video problem. |
| Q: | What do I buy with GRADD drivers? Is it worth it? |
| A: | GRADD display drivers are smoother, faster, and more efficient than normal PM display drivers. If your adapter supports GRADD, it's best to use it. |
| Q: | How do I install Netscape Beta-2? Are their any special steps? |
| A: | Unistall Beta-1, first. Make sure all files are deleted and the CONFIG.SYS is clean. Then install Beta-2. |
| Q: | Can I use Powerquest's Drive Image to backup and restore my system? |
| A: | Yes, but... you don't get a file restore option with Drive Image. Make sure target system for the restore exactly matches the hardware configuration of the original. |
| Q: | I need to replace my mouse what should I do? |
| A: | Find the cheapest mouse that works that you like. If you're trying to avoid carpal tunnel syndrome, make sure you aren't bending your wrist backwards when you type of use the mouse. Best if you can find a way so that there is no pressure (weight) on your wrist or forearm and at the same time keep your elbow bent less than 90 degrees. |
Comment about disk recovery:
A member experienced a hard disk crash and didn't have a recent backup. He contacted
various disk recovery houses and selected OnTrack in Eden Prairie, MN to do the
recovery. They were not the cheapest, but they were very responsive and quick. They
delivered the recovered data on CD-ROMs that preserved long file names. To contact
OnTrack try 800-872-2599.
- end of Q&A -
Following the Q&A session, a short break was taken for the 50/50 raffle and informal discussions.
The two expert Davids, Moskowitz (software) and Gentzler (hardware), then conducted a preliminary/introductory discussion about the Build-A-Thon event planned for the September and October meetings. Although firm hardware option selections haven't yet been made, the general plan is to permit a choice of 2 or 3 OS/2 compatible systems including a Socket-7 motherboard supporting the Pentium and AMD K6-2 CPU's, and a Slot-1 motherboard supporting the Intel Pentium II. Estimated price ranges were also discussed for various components.
A substantial nember of members indicated interest in participating in the build of new systems for themselves at the estimated cost.
At the September meeting, all the specifics will be presented. The September agenda is described in detail below, at the end of this month's article.
Due to the high interest in the Build-A-Thon, the introductory discussions ran beyond the scheduled time. The jPadHD personal database postponed in July was presented, but there wasn't sufficient time remaining to adequately demonstrate and discuss the new Communicator Beta program.
OS/2 NEWS
The OS/2 user community was taken by surprise on July 30th with information (originating in Russia) indicating how to download the new Netscape Communicator 4.04 Beta for OS/2 from IBM. The username "pcpd" and password "os2lives" were required, and this information was also provided. It does appear that someone inside IBM is still rooting for OS/2. It was originally believed that the Communicator Beta(s) would not be publicly available. An associated plugin pack was also provided.
Subsequently, on August 21st, IBM posted a Beta-2 refresh. The latest version, along with an updated plugin pack can be downloaded directly from: http://service5.boulder.ibm.com/pcpd.nsf/ocomm40+home
os2en40.exe - - 7,267,901 bytes
plug21en.exe - - 2,361,199 bytes
The new beta includes many fixes, and addresses the Java 1.1.6 incompatibilities reported by users. It also includes fixes for the graphics problems and the color palette.
There are still numerous problems, however. The JIT, for one, may cause crashes, and must be disabled, leading to very slow performance with some Java apps.
I recommend a complete uninstall of the earlier Beta-1 and the plugin pack before you attempt to install the new updates.
The GA release is not now expected until sometime in 4Q98. When released, it may be downloaded at no charge from IBM's Software Choice web site at: http://service.boulder.ibm.com/asd-bin/doc/en_us/catalog.htm
Australia's Fortify web site posted a full-strength 128-bit encryption security patch for Netscape Navigator 2.02 for OS/2 (Service Level 000008) during late July. A variation by Stefen Motzer of Germany was also posted around the same time. Both patches seem to work equally well. I prefer Fortify, which can be downloaded from http://www.fortify.net. Filename is fn124os2.zip.
Subsequently, Fortify also released 128-bit encryption patches for Netscape Communicator 4.04 Beta-1 and Beta-2.
There was a slight problem installing the patches into the Communicator Beta programs due to NETSCAPE.EXE being locked in some manner by the WPS. Installing from a maintenance partition or other OS/2 command line boot solved the problem. Tests made with Wells Fargo Bank and Vanguard Group confirmed that the full 128-bit security was in effect.
The Warpstock Committee announces the final pricing for Warpstock '98 to be held in Chicago, October 17 and 18th, of this year. We have held the pricing for admission tickets at the same levels as last year for a very extended period of time. Our early bird pricing is now discontinued, and we are pleased to announce the final pricing for all admissions to Warpstock '98. Tickets are still a bargain.
There are only two types of passes -- a two day pass for $75 and a one day pass for $50.
All passholders have access to all Warpstock events, venues and presentations. These passes will not have any raffle tickets attached to their purchase. All passes already sold will have the number of free raffle tickets promised for that pass. Raffle tickets will be available for purchase at Warpstock'98.
Our sales statistics figures show that there was a very very small number of people who purchased Bronze or Gold passes, the vast majority of the passes sold were Platinum. The Bronze passes will become One Day passes without raffle tickets. The Gold passes will be Two Day passes with two raffle tickets. Platinum tickets are Two Day passes with 3 raffle tickets.
You can buy your tickets online from our web site at:
or use the toll-free number (800) 414-4268.
Warpstock '98 will be held at the Wyndham Northwest hotel. Wyndham's web site is http://www.wyndham.com. You can call them directly at (630) 773-4000 or use the toll free number 800-WYNDHAM. Remember to get a bargain room rate of $99/night you must use the group reservation code, "Warpstock."
A personal note if I may: The hotel is simply gorgeous. Amenities abound, restaurants, health club, you name it; you can not beat the rate of $99/night and not have travel time on the days of the event.
We hope to see everyone there. Get there safely.
Warp 4 Fix Pack 8
Loren Bandiera reports that FixPak-8 (for OS/2 Warp 4) has gone into beta testing. From the readme, it appears to complete the functionality of the HW_SHARE_IRQ9 option that showed up in FixPak 7: "Some applications like PCAS (and some terminal emulators) have problems sharing IRQ9 in a VDM. Since the DOS Virtual Device drivers are not loaded out of CONFIG.SYS, a new device driver VPICPARM.SYS has been added starting with Warp 3 FixPak 38 and Warp 4 FixPak 8." Also of interest is that there are a few references to Warp 4.01. Judging by the file list associated with it, it appears to be a version optimized for WorkSpace On Demand.
The readme and list of fixed APARs files have been posted on the OS/2 Supersite at, respectively:
http://www.os2ss.com/news/misc/fp8-apar.txt
Java 1.1.7
IBM is working on Java 1.1.7 according to http://www.javaworld.com/javaworld/jw-09-1998/jw-09-letters.html.
IBM says that they have made significant progress since the 1.1.6 release. It is
supposed to provide much more network throughput and has a better JIT. Some of the
changes may make it into the 1.1.6 service stream.
Warp 5 Client
The WarpX web site, http://www.jmast.se/, has been updated. There is a new client rumor reported:
"Someone at IBM is making a Warp 5 client survey. I have the survey questions myself and it seems likely that there will be a Warp 5 client after all.The survey (just a few days old) says to hurry with the answers because time is a little short."
Harrison, New York, July 31, 1998 -- InnoVal Systems Solutions announced new details about its soon-to-be-released new spam fighting software. A native OS/2 version will be released first. Yet unnamed, the new spam fighting software will include a database of thousands of known spammers that is frequently and automatically updated. Logic rules, including "black hole lookup" will help to identify other spam.
In a letter to InnoVal customers, Dan Porter, President of InnoVal, wrote: "This is far more than a filter program. It's a fighting program. For instance, we're including facilities for forwarding spam messages to service provider abuse centers. We've gathered email addresses for most ISPs (it isn't always abuse@domain or postmaster@domain) and we are building those addresses into the forwarding facility."
New legislation, much of it now working its way through Congress and various state legislatures, may provide new mechanisms for fighting spam. But they also add new problems and may change the way we deal with spam.
Residents of the State of Washington may now sue spammers, but only if headers are forged or the subject header is not clear. We are including logic for detecting forged headers.
A Bill in the United States Senate, S.1618, which deals primarily with telephone long distance carrier "slamming" includes some provisions (Title III, Sections 301 through 305), that apply to unsolicited commercial electronic mail. The bill passed the full Senate in May and a companion bill in the House, HR3888, is expected to be voted out of committee soon. It is very likely that this legislation will be signed into law by the President, soon. The problems with the Federal legislation are that it legitimizes so-called "responsible" spamming and places the burden on the recipient of spam to request removal from the spammer's mailing list.
"We are going to build in tools to help you deal with Section 301' spam," Porter's letter continued. "Generally, you should never send a remove request to a spammer. At worst, it confirms that you have a valid email address and that you read the message you received. At best, it simply generates rejection notices since the email address is most often invalid.
"Section 301 spam may need to be treated differently. It is likely that you will want to send a single remove message. You will want to keep a copy of the spam, your request for removal, and any rejection notices so that, if appropriate, you can file a complaint with the Federal Trade Commission, Internet Service Providers, and appropriate States' Attorneys General, as provided for in the law.
"This means that we will need to revise the software as laws go into effect and as the FTC and various States promulgate rules and procedures. This we will do free for those who have purchased our software.
"The first release, for OS/2, will be around September 1. A Windows 95/98/NT version will follow shortly afterwards. The software is designed to work separately or in conjunction with your favorite email client software. I expect the price to be about $25.00. We haven't named the product yet. If you have a great idea for a name, let us know."
InnoVal is a leading producer of specialized software for the Internet including the J Street Mailer, a Java email client, Post Road Mailer for OS/2, and Hacksaw. Hacksaw is a popular 32-bit Windows and OS/2 Internet file transfer utility.
Symantec will be working closely with IBM to bring the definitive OS/2 AntiVirus product to market later this year. Symantec and IBM software engineers are committed to protecting IBM's OS/2 customers against all viruses - known and unknown. Until the launch of Norton AntiVirus for OS/2, Symantec will provide full Technical Support to IBM OS/2 Anti-virus customers and will work directly with these customers on any OS/2 anti-virus needs. Symantec will also provide IBM OS/2 virus definition updates through June 1999."
OS/2 SIG Member Frank Mosesso sent a letter, entitled "Avoid the Herd," to Information Week which was published in IW's August 24 print issue as well in the Internet online edition at http://www.techweb.com/se/directlink.cgi?IWK19980824S0007
Frank informs us that he was able to give OS/2 some positive press last week in a letter he sent to Information Week. He was surprised they printed it with his testimonial that he switched from Windows and Windows apps to OS/2 Warp 4. But they did. It was edited for space so some of his comments regarding his use of SmartSuite for Warp 4 to replace MS OFFICE didn't make it in. Neither did his comments about Warp 4's built-in network clients for Novell, NT Server, and Warp Server. But the essential parts did.
Frank also pointed out that "Corporate America seems to have a herd mentality when it comes to adopting anything as a standard. The message seems to be that even if it's a mistake, it's OK as long as everyone makes the same mistake - especially when it comes to Wintel and Windows. ... "
Frank is a Software Engineer/Systems Analyst at The Hartford Insurance Co. in Fort Washington, PA.
Jim Geueke of IBM reported that the Lansdale, PA "REPORTER" newspaper carried a recent article on August 25th or 26th written by a local high school student who regularly submits computer-related articles for the newspaper. In this article, he discussed an alternative to all the problems which Windows users are facing. That alternative was OS/2!
I tried to get a copy of the Lansdale newspaper which carried this particular article, but have had no success so far.
The Java lobby is a group of people who share a common interest in Java software development and the advancement of Java standards and software. The main purpose of the Java Lobby is to represent the needs and concerns of the Java developer and user community to the companies and organizations who have influence in the evolution of Java. We encourage all people who care about Java to stand together with us.
Read the full basic statement of "who we are" and "what we stand for." Join us! It's free, it's easy, and your support makes all the difference!
Do it now: http://www.javalobby.org/
Get a free copy of Hacksaw for OS/2
InnoVal will give you one for free if you join the Java Lobby at http://www.javalobby.org/. It won't cost you anything to join but a moment or two of your time, and by joining you are showing your support for Java. InnoVal says: "We are making this appeal because, as a traditional OS/2 ISV, we beleieve that true 100% pure Java is important to the future of OS/2."
Hacksaw is a great little tool for use on the internet. You can retrieve web pages, send email, check to see if you have email, retrieve that email and delete email on a Pop3 or SMTP server. The FTP commands are very well done. You can send and receive files via FTP, change or list directories and more. And InnoVal will give it to you for FREE if you'll just join the Java Lobby.
HINTS & TIPS
The following article was posted on Warp City (http://www.warpcity.com), a popular OS/2 subscription web service. It is reprinted here with permission.
Doing Away With Cookies!
Special Thoughts From "David - An OS/2 Advocate"
You can get around ALL cookies by removing your own cookies.txt file and replacing it with a subdirectory in your Netscape (and probably I.E.) directory. When other systems search your system for a cookies.txt file they find and accept the subdirectory as the cookies.txt file.
REMEMBER: The name of the subdirectory you create is "cookies.txt."
By removing the actual cookies.txt file and replacing it with an empty subdirectory, your system is unable to accept cookie snoopers and the inquiring site is tricked into believing it has found your cookies.txt file. All sites which require the finding of a "working" cookies.txt file for entry are tricked by the subdirectory. A "working" cookies.txt file would be a file that is not designated as read only.
When a user "turns off" his cookies.txt file, his system adds a file attribute to it that makes it read only. To anger and frustrate those who turn off their cookies, some web masters will try and force the receiver to turn their cookies on - by repeating the request "want a cookie?" (No) "want a cookie?" (etc) with no way out of the circle but to reset or reboot the receiving system (See Persistent Cookies above). This is a successful trick because most people just give up and turn on their cookies.
That's why you remove your cookies.txt file and replace it with a subdirectory of the same name. When the incoming system checks for the cookies.txt file and gets a report back that it is there and 'readable' you are allowed to enter the site and it believes it has been able to insert their own cookie text information in your cookies.txt file - when, in fact, nothing can be placed in that subdirectory. It believes the information is inserted because they don't get a bounce-back reply.
USEFUL WEB SITES
Each month, we list a few web pages which may be of benefit and/or interest to OS/2 users. This month's selections include ...
NEW SOFTWARE RELEASES
FixPak-37 for OS/2 Warp 3
On July 28th, IBM released FixPak-37 for OS/2 Warp 3. There are 20 disk image files:
xr_w037.1dk to xr_w037.kdk, totaling 26,148 KBytes altogether. There are also 6
readme files which can be downloaded, but they are also in the first disk image.
FP-37 can be downloaded from: ftp://service.boulder.ibm.com/ps/products/os2/fixes/v3.0warp/english-us/xr_w037/
GRADD Drivers; BBS Video Build Level 0.077
GRADDBB.DSK 1,186,144 bytes 8-28-98
ftp://service.boulder.ibm.com/ps/products/os2/videopak/graddbb/
Includes the following accelerated GRADD drivers: ATI Rage II/Mach 64; Chips &
Technology 6555X; Matrox Millenium/Mystique; S3 864/TRIO; S3 Virge/Virge VX; and
generic VGA & SVGA support.
IBM AntiVirus Datafiles Update AV30BX
AV30BX.ZIP 535,644 bytes 8-20-98 http://www.av.ibm.com/IBMAntiVirus/Updates/
Java 1.1.6 Update: Build of 8-07-98
On August 18th, IBM released another Java 1.1.6 update: build level "JDK 1.1.6
IBM build o116-19980807 (JIT: javax)"
runtime.exe - - 5,237,821 bytes
samples.exe - - 2,145,640 bytes
toolkit.exe - - 3,141,433 bytes
These update files can be downloaded via ftp from either of two sites:
ftp://ncc/hursley.ibm.com/pub/java/fixes/os2/11/116/
OS/2 Boot System Create Utility v.9.15. (IBM EWS)
BTOS2915.ZIP 336654 8-10-98
Y2K Fix for Warp 4:
APAR = JR11087 JR11087.ZIP 61,932 bytes 7-07-98 Y2K - DSPINSTL.Log Error Msg has
Year 100 (instead of 2000)
Here's a selection of new files, released since the July DataBus article, which may be useful for many of our members. These files can be downloaded from hobbes, BMT, OS/2 Supersite, and other of the usual OS/2 Internet and BBS file distribution sources.
BBS SUPPORT
Larry Lavins' BBS, The Claim Board, is still online, going strong, even though the files haven't been updated for an embarrassing long time. The job of updating a wide variety of files for DOS, Windows, OS/2, etc. has proved to be too taxing. Serious consideration is being given to specializing in OS/2 related files, with only a smattering of other general DOS and Windows applications. Stay tuned ...
Most callers log in for the large selection of FidoNet echomail areas, including OS/2 International Conference, OS/2 Hardware, OS/2 DOS-Windows, OS/2 Internet and Team OS/2. Some popular genealogy areas are also available: National Genealogical Conference, Jewish Genealogy Conference and Genealogy Software.
There are hundreds of new messages received every day from all over the world on these OS/2 echomail areas.
Phone number is (215) 878-9611, 24-hours daily. All standard ITU bitrates are supported, up to 14400 (v.32bis). Everything is free.
PACS members who wish to have additional access privileges must send a message to the Sysop to request same. Be sure to include your PACS ID number, which will be verified.
Another very fine BBS, which supports OS/2 exclusively, is the OS/2 Source, operated by SIG Member Ben Bowers, located in Royersford, PA, (610) 948-4089, and also via a Philadelphia metro area phone number in King of Prussia, (610) 337-9119.
The OS/2 Source BBS has the largest collection of current OS/2 files in this region. Message areas are devoted almost exclusively to the exchange of useful OS/2 information amongst the many callers and the Sysop. Ben has recently added a Java message area which has become quite active.
Another good OS/2 BBS is the RPS BBS in Philadelphia at (215) 624-8960, operated by SIG member Murray Weismer. RPS also has a good selection of very new and current OS/2 files. Murray also has an interesting personal web page at http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/Towers/9001
The largest and most widely known OS/2 BBS in the nation is Pete Norloff's OS/2 Shareware BBS, located in Virginia, outside of Washington, DC. The OS/2 Shareware BBS is accessible via Telnet at bbs.os2bbs.com. Full privileges are by subscription, but non-subscribers are also welcome and have generous download privileges.
SIG MEMBERSHIP
A continuing plea here for PACS members who wish to affiliate with the OS/2 SIG to check the OS/2 SIG box on their new member form or annual membership renewal form, as the case may be. The names of many active SIG participants are still not included as OS/2 SIG members on the PACS database. PACS members may call the PACS office at any time and ask for the OS/2 SIG affiliation to be added to their record in the PACS database. This is important. Interested PACS members are requested to do this ASAP. Please do it!
Please note that PACS membership cards are not mailed back to members who join and/or renew via mail. Cards are normally issued at the main PACS meeting. If you wish to receive your membership card via mail, please include a self-addressed stamped envelope (SASE) with your membership or renewal application.
All OS/2 SIG members are also requested to fill in a newly revised OS/2 User Survey Form and submit same to Larry. Blank forms are made available at each monthly meeting, and will be given to all attendees as they enter.
The OS/2 SIG welcomes all PACS members, their guests and other non-members who use or have an interest in OS/2, regardless of their level of expertise.
FUTURE MEETING PLANS
Wednesday, September 23rd, the 4th Wednesday of the month, at 7:00pm, is the date and time of the next monthly SIG meeting at our current home, The Episcopal Academy, in Merion.
Mark your calendars and plan to attend. And bring an interested friend or associate along to hear all the good news about OS/2. A system will be on hand for live demos of OS/2 Warp 4, a variety of OS/2 apps, Java, Internet, etc. as time may permit.
Members without cars can take SEPTA's R-5 (Paoli Local) to Overbrook, or the R-6 to Bala. Call Larry to make arrangements to be picked up at the RR Station.
Since Episcopal Academy is so close to public transportation, why don't you Philadelphia Center City folks who don't have cars call ahead of time to be picked up at the Overbrook train station. Hey, you guys in Center City, the trains are running. There's no excuse now for not coming to meetings.
Everybody should keep up to date by logging in to our OS/2 SIG web site at frequent intervals: www.pasug.org/
Please try to be on time. The meeting will start promptly at 7:00pm, as per the following agenda and schedule.
Planned September Agenda:
General SIG business session: (7:00 - 7:15pm) Announcements, news of interest, new OS/2 products, future plans, etc.
Q&A Session (7:15 - 8:00pm): If you have questions, this is the place to bring them up. Someone is sure to have the answers.
Intermission, raffles, etc: (8:00 - 8:20pm) As usual, complimentary light refreshments will be served. We will also have our customary 50/50 raffle followed by a software raffle (if available).
Build-A-Thon Options & Details (8:20 - 10:00pm)
Have you ever thought about building your own computer -- not just to run OS/2, but any of today's systems, including Windows NT, Linux and/or BeOS? Has something ever failed or crashed inside and you didn't know how to fix it. Have you ever wanted to just replace that hard disk? Well, 16 people will get a chance to build their own computer starting with the September meeting of the PACS OS/2 SIG.
At the September meeting we'll discuss various options you can purchase to build your system. At the time of submitting this month's Data Bus article, it's still not known if we'll be able to arrange for a group purchase. We'll present 2 or three motherboard options including Socket 7 for Pentium and AMD chips and a Slot 1 board to accommodate a Pentium II. We'll also cover memory options, sound cards, hard disk(s), video adapters, cd-rom, cases and keyboards and everything else needed. For under $1000 you should be able to build a SUPER system that would cost much more if you were to buy "ready-made."
At the September meeting we'll also present the catalog of parts, things to consider and how to purchase your components so that everything plays together as expected. At the October meeting we'll build the computers. Between the two we'll ask folks to purchase their hardware (a decision about group purchase will be announced at the meeting) and review the manuals. Don't try to put the stuff together, until the meeting when expert help will be on hand (that's why we're limiting it to 16 people -- room size and "lab help.").
Soooo..... sound interesting? Join us at the September and October meetings. Oh, one other thing, even if you don't want to build a computer of your own, you can still join us at the meetings and ask all the questions you want, look over someone's shoulder and get vicarious experience!
Larry's system will be on hand for live demos, as time may permit. Member requests for specific demos are solicited, and will be done if the software is available and as time may permit. Episcopal Academy has installed a permanent analog phone line in our meeting room for our use for Internet access. Please call Larry prior to the meeting date to permit preparation.
All our more experienced users are urged to attend the September meeting to share their knowledge and expertise with others.
See you all on September 23rd. Mark your calendars. Bring your friends and associates to show them that OS/2 is really alive and well.